Current Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland, who helped initiate the Ukrainian government’s overthrow in 2014, is now encouraging Ukraine to escalate the war against Russia by attacking Russian bases in Crimea. She acknowledges this move could push Russia closer to the brink of a nuclear attack, but feels that’s a small price to pay for sending a powerful message that Ukraine is serious about winning the war. Guest host Aaron Maté and Americans Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the genuinely psychopathic calculations that drive U.S. foreign policy.